Scraping the Sportster Project

Posted on 11th January 2010 by Electra Glide In Blue in Craigslist,ebay,sportster - Tags: , , , ,

Last year I did a post about picking up a Sportster project off of Craigslist. The package deal I scored was great. A 1998 1200c engine with title, a 1967 Sportster frame, and a 1973 set of motor cases with the top-end and title along with about a half a truck load of misc Sporty parts. I hauled it all home for $650 with all kinds of possibilities swimming around in my head.

After reviewing my options, I sold off the 67 frame and cases to get back my initial investment. I then went on a search for a sportster frame, for the 1200c engine.

Trying to stay on a low budget (plus I’m cheap) I found a deal on eBay for a custom built frame from an up and coming custom bike builder out of Indiana. It was a sweet deal for a custom built frame at a cost of only $550.00. Paughco frames go for around $800 bucks and as my dad always said “son you get what you pay for”. But I thought I’d give this kid a chance. He had a nice website showing the frames he’d built and some testimonials. He even had some biker magazine review articles and pictures from V-Twin, Hot Bike, Cruising Rider documenting his work.

I did my purchase through his eBay listing using PayPal and putting the charge on my credit card. The order was to take four to six weeks to complete. After contacting him when the payment went through he said he’d be getting back to me when he was getting my frame ready for the frame jig.

I waited five weeks, after not hearing from him I made contact, he responded, telling me there were a couple of frames ahead of mine and it would be another two weeks to get mine on the jig.

A red flag popped up and I thought it was time to check up on this lad. Going back to eBay, his feedback was starting to look ugly. Searching around using his name, popped-up some posts on a couple of motorcycle forums that were just starting to look ugly.

I contacted him again after the two weeks flew by (now seven weeks in to the deal). He came off with some excuse that I wasn’t buy’n. I mentioned the forum crap and bad eBay feedback, he had just falling behind and was playing ketch-up, he tells me. I’m just an easy going guy so I cut him some slack, he said he’d be getting to my frame next.

Next never comes and the posts on the forums get real ugly. His eBay account gets shut down, and I loose all contact with him. Six months have passed I have no frame and I’m out $550 bucks of hard earned money so I’m thinking I’m screwed.

Now I don’t get screwed to often by strangers and prefer to be on top. So I contact my credit card company and file a billing dispute. I had all the emails, and phone calls logged with all the information. This was the key to getting the full amount credited back to my CC account. On November 30th, seven and a half months after I had made the frame purchase I was issued the refund.

When doing the late back-ground search on this low-life lad, named Jeromy Hagemier, I found a couple of other guys getting screwed by him. One guy had over $1,100 dollars invested, he paid by check, as far as I know he’s out the $1100. Another guy was out about $800 bucks.

So after getting burnt-out dealing with trying to get a frame and then get my money back, I sold the 1200c engine the end of December and scraped the Sportster project.

I guess it just wasn’t meant to be. I’m thinking I’ll just stick to the “Big Twins”.

Electra Glide In Blue

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6 Comments »

  1. Man, I sure hate to hear about people ripping us (bikers, builders, and regular nice guys…)

    I’m very glad you were able to dispute the ass wipe….and get your money back. To anyone who didn’t figure it out by now…when dealing with people anymore, and not just by mail or Internet…NEVER USE CASH OR CHECK. You have no advocate other than yourself to help you get satisfaction or your money back. Only a credit card company will do that…Right?

    K. I’m off my high horse now…whew…glad to get my ass back where it belongs…

    Comment by Chessie — January 12, 2010 @ 7:30 am

  2. Dear EGIB:

    What a sad end to what sounded like great project… Sometimes poorly capitalized one-man craftsmen or artists find themselves building a reputation, than struggling to compete, then realizing that they have spent their seed money, then finally funding vices of just plain living expenses through advance sales… Without having completed anything.

    Crashed dreams all around.

    Fondest regards,
    Jack • reep • Toad
    Twisted Roads

    Comment by Jack Riepe — January 12, 2010 @ 9:09 am

  3. uhhhh….sounds like you could get a band of brothers together here. I’m not saying nothin’ but…I would be showing up to someones house just to offer a few kind words. Yeah, you got your money back but it’s not always about the money. Object lessons are priceless…and no, it’s not always about ass kickin’, but a few choice words in someones ear hole helps keep them from doing it again to someone else.

    I’ve done it before. What a great excuse for a roadtrip! Whooooooo!

    Comment by FLHX_Dave — January 13, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

  4. Chessie, Jack and Dave, Thanks for the comments.
    I think it came down to piss-poor management. He had a great start going and blew it. And if your main clientele is bikers you sure as hell don’t what to blow-it.

    Dave, you’re right it’s not always about the money. I was ready to head his way and was afraid someone would beat me there. The way it sounds on some of the forums, he has had a couple of visits. I do feel sorry for his kids. He has three boys that will be starting out with a tarnished name.

    Comment by Electra Glide In Blue — January 14, 2010 @ 7:47 am

  5. Thats bad. Sorry to hear a punk tried to take you. But you did get your money back.

    Comment by Webster World — January 15, 2010 @ 10:51 am

  6. I made a trip up there to get my stuff, or rather some stuff, got back with a half welded frame, a set of wheels an inverted front end, a seat and a few odds and ends, think the wheels cost more then i paid him, so I called it square with me and him.

    Comment by brian — March 4, 2010 @ 9:54 pm

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